Wooting seems to have gone out of their way to get them right on their 60he with also adding a lot of greese to get rid of any rattle. Stabs are just bad, rattle really loud and are just not lubed at all out of the box, not a big fan. Literally cant find a way to just turn it off, no idea if my keyboard is cooked or something but its really frustraiting, would prefer to not have it at all at this point. Also it burns in with the steelseries logo because even though i disabled mine it still defaulted to their stupid logo every now and then. The oled display is just pointless, never found it useful unless i needed to adjust something on the keyboard itself. They also feel rubberised but that could just be me not being used to abs anymore. You have to buy aftermarket pbt ones or they are going to shine.

The keycaps, for a premium keyboard they fucking suck. Wouldnt matter as much with something like a 3.2mm and 3.6mm but the 3.6mm and 4.0mm geniuenly matters. Its the difference between being close and ACTUALLY having the actuation point at the top or bottom.

Same as with having it down at 3.6mm and at the actual bottom at 4.0mm, with it being at 4.0mm it literally requires a bottom out and the 3.6mm is low but not actually at the bottom. Its about instantly actuating when you press the key or still having some annoyng pretravel with the omnipoints. The 0,4mm actuation feels like its actually not enough, you would think that 0.3mm difference between the two would not really matter but it actually does. I still hear it clear as day, though i am using open back headphones so take it as you will. Pings like a motherfucker, after coming from a huntsman v2 analog from razer that didnt have any audible pinging it felt horrible and bothered me for the first 3-4. Ive tried the apex pro and am gonna be returning it and buying the 60he instead, heres why:

Steel series apex pro mini